It’s not usual to have experienced it in person. I don’t know, I’m one of those people who tends to have a very serious facial expression in general unless I happen to smile. And I am very quiet, so perhaps disconcerting to those who don’t know me although I wouldn’t call myself physically intimidating. Personally, I just don’t get this kind of behavior wherever it occurs, but I’ve observed people are far more likely to do it online. I think it is revealing.
When I worked in law enforcement, and it was usually third shift in the more overtly difficult area of the city in which I lived, it was no surprise to be called any and everything when you’re taking them down, then “downtown” to be booked. Some officers might unexpectedly hit the brakes while the perpertrator was in the backside of the cruiser.Yes, if they can’t catch themselves in time, they hit the security divider.
That was nothing I ever did, or thought acceptable, but it happened. Even though it could be very irritating, I either ignored them, or sometimes you knew it’s the drugs, the alcohol or psychological problems talking for them. Online? Well, those can be contributable factors also, but sometimes it is just because people thoughtlessly can do so, sometimes they try to hurt you in some way, as they perceive it, as a way to imaginarily elevate themselves. The circle of life. I wouldn’t return an equally nasty reply ever, “Life’s too short”, but here’s a brief presentation of the irony of educated idiocy.
From an author whose work I accepted early when my review site had newly opened, although the work was “generally” religious or spiritual in nature I felt I could objectively review it. I later changed my requirements specifically because of this example, with included multiple insults regarding my ethnicity and even my name. Now I decline all religious works fiction or non-fiction. As these messages are in the public domain, here is the original post, and here is the replies on the review thread.
““A reviewer who calls himself Red Haircrow reviewed the book last week as well, and gave the book only 3 or 4 stars (depending on which review site.) He doesn’t like spiritual books, and readily admits he was probably not the right reviewer for this book…
…thanks Red Scarecrow for taking the time and energy to review a book that clearly falls outside the realm of the sort of book you enjoy and want to review!”
“Wow, do we have a language barrier problem here possibly?”
I was surprised by the comment and tone, but I was not personally offended. Thank you for the correction yet I found it quite interesting you chose to use mockery both in your post at your website, and it was your first response here as well: “Language barrier? Way off base. Distortion, etc.” And I’ll understand if you “leave it alone.” My trademark quote is “I welcome questions. I hate assumptions.” I make reply as long as I believe it serves a point, but following this… I’ve said what I needed to say regarding this issue.
This continues to be case in point of why I do not accept certain material. Not because I don’t read it at some time personally, but the mentality of too many of the individuals tend towards judging others first in an ethnocentric way and that’s their initial response: to believe their own way, thoughts are inherently the correct one and the other person obviously has gotten something wrong. I speak and understand English as well as you do.
My guidelines, my requirements and my “About Me” section are all there for a reason. Even from the very first, if you’d read those, as suggested, you would have known not to mock someone’s name just because you assumed it was made up. And since you had no typo’s in your post and had written it correctly before, ending your comment with “Red Scarecrow” after you said I was afraid to read religious material because I didn’t like it? If you choose to say it was a complete mistake on your part, okay.
And to completely clarify for you: Flying With Red Haircrow is a professional site that accepts requests from those who meet the requirements and guidelines.
From an author whose book was initially accepted, yet after this randomly send message, well…you’ll see in my reply.
I noticed that you stopped following me on twitter. I hope you have not pre-judged my book. I read that you hate the pope and religious stuff.
My novel may smack of religion, but it also gives religion a helluva smack, as well. I’ve got to use religious ideas to confront the bullshit.
You might say that my book ridicules religion – by exposing the how distant religion is from love, which is truth. Love has to be the truth, otherwise, what else is there?
You may like reading “Hitler’s Pope”.
I hope you still read my book. I believe that in the end you will see what I am up to, and approve.
I never began following you on Twitter in the first place. The number of people I am following has remained unchanged for several months. I have not had the time to go through my followers to follow back those I wish to, and I consider it imperative before I do so. I don’t auto-follow.
You have made a number of unfounded assumptions and accusations in this email about me which are entirely unwarranted. I do not have to explain anything to you, yet I choose to do so at this time because this attack is so strange it deserves the kind of honesty I give everyone.
The tweet you read and chose to focus on was one made to a long-time personal friend who I know quite well, who is Pagan and she knew just what I meant and was referring to: a past conversation between us. If you wish to be exact, I said I hate the Pope and Christianity, not religious stuff. Christianity is not religion. It is a religion among thousands of belief systems.
All I have is the information you provided below in your request about your book, and it does not include any reference to religion, so I had no idea regarding that until just now when I read this message. I can appreciate passion for one’s work, but this is the primary reason why I don’t accept religious directed or referencing works, not because I may not find it of interest in some way, but because too many people present an egocentric view where their opinion is the right one. Just as you are now asserting.
I do not judge a book even after I’ve read it because that isn’t my way, and it’s not mine to judge, therefore I certainly would never pre-judge a work. In fact, I do not read any other reviews or critique regarding a work before I start reading for review purposes. I prefer to remain uninfluenced.
I do not use curse words when I am speaking and do not appreciate them being used in addressing me. You do not know me, nor have any frame of reference to suggest what I might say or do, and especially what I might like to read or approve. I sense an attempt at sarcasm within “You may like reading “Hitler’s Pope”, likely referencing the country of my birth. Besides the general attacks you’ve made, that appears to be a personal one.
I did have your book in queue, however I will be removing it now. As with all files received, it will be perma-deleted. As with all exchanges, this message and my reply will remain in my database.
No. 1 in Sheer Gall and Unprofessionalism
This one takes the proverbial cake. I received this message from book review site when I wrote asking about a message I received supposedly from them, but it had a “bad” link it, and used curious language. I just questioned if it was originally from them, or had someone possibly misused their accounts. Phishers and hackers are very active. This is the reply I received, and if that’s not enough, I’ve added subsequent messages.
(there were more as they seemed to keep thinking of new insults to send my way as they occurred to them):
There is no onus on me to be professional when it comes to dealing with your kind. I treat people in accordance with how they are. If you are an asshole you will be treated like an asshole.
I have come in contact with apples like you before, extremely paranoid people you are.
Have a nice weekend chief.
Honestly, it would be enlightening to provide a link to their website, but would serve no purpose except to cause a problem, though I was almost comically surprised at the depth of their unprofessional and level of pointless insults (being called “chief” because I’m Native American?) and assumptions, yet they claim to be professional.
There have been others, to be sure, if I decline a review and the author chose to send a reply expressing their displeasure, surprisingly often enough making some kind of negative personal comment. For whatever reason they think it’s justified, the publishing and writing networking world is interconnected and interlocked in many ways. And I believe it never serves any interest to behave in such ways. I keep dancing though, as I mentioned in “Counting Coup With a Pen: Online Life.”